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TWICM 219: Make Your Mark Ep 1 with John Kelly of Musgraves

TWICM 219: Make Your Mark Ep 1 with John Kelly of Musgraves

John Kelly

7 Oct 2026 · 31 min

About this episode

Make Your Mark is a three-part series exploring how marketers build their careers and make a difference to their businesses, their customers and the people around them, in partnership with the Marketing Institute of Ireland.

In this opening conversation, John Kelly, Retail Marketing Manager at Musgrave, joins That’s What I Call Marketing to discuss his 20-year career working predominantly with SuperValu, and what it takes to turn customer understanding into commercial results. John’s experience shows how much you can learn by taking on different challenges within one organisation. From checking promotional prices as a marketing assistant to delivering campaigns across a network of independent retailers, he explains how attention to detail, curiosity and doing what you said you would do build the credibility to take your next step.

We also get into the work behind SuperValu’s “Yes You Scan” campaign. Getting TV, radio, social and in-store communications working together is one challenge; getting the entire business, right down to the checkout, moving towards the same outcome is another.

In this episode, we cover:

– How John deliberately built experience across value, local marketing, loyalty, sponsorship and retail marketing.

– The commercial thinking and business-wide coordination behind Real Rewards prices and “Yes You Scan”.

– What independent retailers know about their communities, and how that knowledge complements customer research and sales data.

– Keeping SuperValu distinctive while competing on value and delivering short-term sales.

– What John learned from micromanaging, and how he now uses trust, accountability and regular feedback to develop his team.

– Why the time AI saves should help marketers get closer to customers, alongside the continuing need for creativity and storytelling.

A useful listen for marketers interested in career development, retail marketing, brand building, customer insight, marketing effectiveness and leadership.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Consumer understanding and storytelling

00:23 Introducing the Make Your Mark series

03:08 John Kelly’s route into marketing

04:00 Musgrave and SuperValu’s retailer model

05:00 Different roles, new challenges and career development

06:23 Commercial outcomes and attention to detail

08:19 Why John’s team hears “never assume”

10:21 Building credibility by following through

11:00 Real Rewards prices and “Yes You Scan”

12:12 Getting the whole business behind a campaign

13:11 Competition, pace and brand differentiation

15:34 Customer insight and the say-do gap

16:47 Short-term sales and long-term brand building

18:21 Learning to lead without micromanaging

20:10 Mentoring and finding answers as a leader

22:19 The attitude and skills John looks for when hiring

25:37 Using AI to get closer to customers

27:00 Demonstrating marketing’s business impact

28:12 Recognising marketing talent through awards

30:24 Make Your Mark and continuous learning

That’s What I Call Marketing is the podcast for marketers who care about brand, B2B, creativity, effectiveness and the future of the profession.

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OUR SERIES PARTNER

Thank you to the Marketing Institute of Ireland for partnering with us on this series as part of their Make Your Mark campaign. The campaign recognises that making your mark happens throughout your career: as you develop your skills, grow in confidence, take responsibility and help others progress. Across three conversations with marketers working in different organisations and at different career stages, we explore what that means in practice. The Marketing Institute of Ireland helps marketers build their expertise and professional credibility through its competency framework, professional assessment, certification and ongoing CPD.

That’s What I Call Marketing is where marketers come for real conversations about brand, B2B, creativity, effectiveness and the future of the profession.

Hosted by Conor Byrne, the show features conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, agency leaders, authors, thinkers and practitioners about what good marketing looks like in practice.

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